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Poster: thyrr Date: Oct 4, 2004 3:15pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: why not wmv as a format/codec

Minor point: WMV is free to use *only if* you're running Windows.

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Poster: Roland Wolf Date: Oct 4, 2004 8:09pm
Forum: movies Subject: Theora from xiph.org

today there is only one really free video format on this planet: Theora from xiph.org .
Theora encoding and decoding is available for free on all platforms. Theora also promotes creative common movies. Theora would be a fantastic format for archive.org as soon as the codecs are more common on user machines. Prelinger Archives may also decide to offer Theora movies right now to support a free standard. The world suffered from proprietary text formats for decades. Every help to make videos free is valuable.

Roland Wolf

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Poster: i4004 Date: Oct 5, 2004 3:03am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Theora from xiph.org

theora has *only* one problem; quality is not good at all.

and btw. another totally free video codec is mpeg1, and i bet i can make mpeg1 (with quenc or mencoder or ffmpeg) that looks better than theora on same bitrate.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffsimon c Date: Oct 5, 2004 3:37am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Theora from xiph.org

We were actually talking to the Theora folks at one point, and are still interested in perhaps adding it as an additional format, but unfortunately haven't had the time or resources to sort it out just yet.

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Poster: Blenda Date: Oct 5, 2004 8:48am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Theora from xiph.org

I guess that depends on which quality settings you choose. The CC spots availible on theora.org looks great IMHO.

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Poster: i4004 Date: Oct 5, 2004 3:05am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: why not wmv as a format/codec

so one should avoid windows even if it's making streams with higher efficiency of bandwidth?

and it's not win only; it runs on mac too ()
i inspected header of the movie portion i got, yes, it was made with ffmpeg.
and yes, quality sucks big time!
(mpeg4 is not a codec for streaming over lo-bandwidth connections..or for encoding at sub 320kbit/s, for that matter... )

people, did IA encoding folks even cared to read this
only thing that saves you (from mpeg la) is that you're not profit driven organization (but even so , they can sue you for usage of mpeg4 unlicensed encoder..if they want to!), but that doesn't help my 56k modem at all.
my modem just sees waste of bitrate via mpeg4.
(there is no mpeg4 codec that can do very low bitrates in a nice way, and there never was such mpeg4 codec)

why don't you just ask microsoft to donate one copy of win2000 and then get wmencoder9 and that's it.
problem solved.
(although it's hard to believe that IA doesn't have a single win machine)
or, why not get realvideo encoder for linux

ok, i said enough;
do whatever you like, but be aware that you're wasting bandwidth if you're using mpeg4 in a time of wmv9(or rv10).

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